Guess it depends on how much you play ship battles? I'm annoyed that Empire was released with almost no units and 1.0 -1-4 was a ctd nightmare! and also that Napoleon never really worked on an ATI card, at least for me! But I really think that Shogun 2 is very good. Not sure why you think CA have gone down hill. But I do know that mods can really improve a game and I do use them! Never got round to it with total war for some reason, maybe I should! Click to expand.Well, I've never played warscape so I'll check that out now! Never really modded a total war game either, the vanilla just seemed great anyway.